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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 7:34 pm    Post subject: Saint Mary's Glacier reopening? Reply with quote

I got an email today from a site viewer that had some new infomation on the saint mary's glacier SA.

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I have a house up in St. Mary's and here is the latest info.
The folks who own the store (Ope's Market) informed me today the Mike
Coors (Nephew of Pete Coors) has purchased the ski area, facilities and
lifts. Apparantly the plan is to open the ski area on January 1st. I
have noticed a lift repair company up there recently and tere are 2 large
tanks that were recently delivered for snow making equipment. Word has
it that he bought 8 of the condos up there as well to use as ski
rentals. I guess we'll see what happens!


Has anyone else heard this???
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 1:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

whoah - didn't even know there was anything up there...apart from teh glacier itself above that lovely lake. Where are the trails then?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the trails & old t-bar are right off the side of the road before you hit the lake & trail parking, it's hard to miss. i spoke with the then current owner(2003) at the time someone was trying to buy the place and open it up as a terrain park only like echo mountain. last i heard was that the county was going to reject the plan because of the increased traffic, and oppositon from residents - so maybe who ever is trying to reopen it now has overcome these obstacles.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

there is truth to it, according to the Denver Post:

http://denverpost.com/business/ci_3263445

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Coors relative hopes ski area eclipses state's terrain parks
A 24-year-old with ties to the brewery empire leads a group in redeveloping the idle St. Mary's Glacier.
By Jason Blevins
Denver Post Staff Writer
DenverPost.com

Michael Coors, a 24-year-old skier with ties to the Coors empire in Golden, is leading an investment group in the redevelopment of the dormant St. Mary's Glacier ski area, west of Idaho Springs.

Coors' Denver-area group bought the area for $1.65 million two weeks ago from longtime owner Iran Emeson, who closed the resort in 1984 after several years of operating losses. Coors plans to develop the area into a 270-acre terrain-park ski area with halfpipes, rails and jumps.

He said his Eclipse Snow Park could begin hosting skiers and snowboarders as soon as January.

"We would like to make it a big deal and make it one of those places that could host a big event like the Gravity Games," Coors said. "That's a long ways away, but I imagine we could eventually get to a point where we have the largest terrain park in Colorado."

Coors is installing a new T-bar lift using the area's old T-bar lift towers. He has installed several tanks to hold snowmaking water. He has purchased a Sno-Cat from Crested Butte ski area and hired a veteran skate-park designer to begin sculpting the snowy features and welding the rails that are ubiquitous in terrain parks.

The plan closely resembles that of nearby Echo Mountain Park, a small terrain park under construction on the grounds of the former Squaw Pass ski area, south of Idaho Springs, in Clear Creek County. The 250-acre Echo Mountain is being developed by former Colorado resident and hotelier Gerald Petitt, who hopes to welcome terrain-park skiers and riders in mid-January.

The St. Mary's Glacier property includes a small chalet and an ancient T-bar lift. Emeson and his wife ran the ski area for several years before closing it. They had tried to keep lift prices below $8 but struggled to stay afloat.

"It created a loss for us for several years, and we just decided the hobby was too expensive," said Emeson, 75. "I was trying to have very inexpensive lift tickets because I was of the opinion that other than rich people could ski."

The property languished on the market for more than 20 years. A couple of potential buyers circled the property but backed away after due diligence, Emeson said, noting that water requirements for snowmaking are challenging.

Coors said he has leased water for the upcoming season and is pursuing more. He said he will not use water rights owned by his family's Coors Brewing Co. in Clear Creek County.

The new ski area can operate under a temporary "prior use" permit from Clear Creek County that would allow up to 250 skiers a day, Coors said. To reach a desired 500 skiers a day, he most likely will have to rezone the ski area.

Coors declined to discuss the planned investment for the ski area but said it would be "much less" than the $5 million projected for Echo Mountain.

Once the ski area has proved itself, he wants to explore a land swap with the U.S. Forest Service to expand the area's boundaries. He envisions night riding under lights. His target market is the young riders who pack terrain parks in Keystone, Breckenridge and Copper Mountain.

Aiming just for the urban terrain-park regulars - the same kids who crowd concrete skate parks and the growing number of ski-resort parks - is a popular approach. Two ski areas just outside Vancouver, British Columbia - Grouse Mountain and Mount Seymour - have expanded their terrain-park focus and are flourishing despite their close proximity to the continent's largest ski area at Whistler.

Southern California's Mountain High and Snow Summit ski areas have enjoyed great success targeting urban youth and elevating the terrain park over cruiser skiing. Several Midwest ski areas have found new life in the all-terrain-park-all-the- time movement.

"It's the skate park reinvented," says Michael Berry, president of the National Ski Areas Association in Lakewood.

His 13-year-old son and his friends have plans to hit the park at Echo Mountain every day after school when it opens in January.

"He's got it all figured out," Barry said. "They are interested in the park exclusively. It's an intriguing trend."

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bet the owners of Echo Mtn is pissed. I would be...

Hmm, if this is such a trend, someone should buy Hesperus and do the same thing. It already has lights and is on private land. Perfect. The current owner of Hesperus is so burnt out, I doubt he would have the energy to do the park idea...
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

competition is always good to see. this is crazy though. So it won't be open this ski season then...im confused. Question
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Brad, word up the hill is that they will open in January. I'll get you some pictures to post this weekend. I also know the guy that's currently living in the lodge as a tenant (will probably be moving out soon) and I'll get some more details from him to post.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sweet!
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What are they going to open with? Last time I was there thing seemed a little run down.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you know this Snowboard Park idea is a big hit in the East (I think), atleast that's what I've heard. I would bet it's good money, since the snowboaders and skiers who like the terrain park don't have to deal with the resort like mountain, and the expensive lift tickets. If I had enough oney, I would do that too, it seems like it's one of today's big markets. Almost everyone in my school snowboards, and 80% of them are the terrain park type people. I bet they would love a place like this
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

for the snowboarders in this forum, would you ride a T-bar at a snowboard park. I know many snowboarders dislike t-bars? Shocked
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Denver Post
Snow park's rough ride
Alice residents wary of plan to reopen ski area for boarders

By Gary Gerhardt, Rocky Mountain News
December 1, 2005

While snowboarders may be salivating at the thought of a new half-pipe challenge close to Denver, residents of a nearby former mining town fear what a proposed snowboard park could mean for their small community.

Alice is a community of a couple of hundred people nestled at the toe of St. Mary's Glacier northwest of Idaho Springs.

Residents recently learned that Mike Coors, 24, son of John K. Coors, the CEO of Coors Tek, and two other investors are seeking zoning approval to reopen a defunct ski area as a 60-to-70-acre snowboard park to be called Eclipse Snow Park.

He said that he hopes the snow park will attract up to 250 young boarders on any given day.

The boarding park would compete with the 240-acre Echo Mountain Park being developed by hotel man Gerald Petitt just 20 miles to the southwest as the crow flies.

Petitt bought the land for $700,000 and is planning on pumping another $4 million into it in hopes of luring the same metro- -area "Gen Y" snow riders, and he's way ahead because he already has nearly all the approvals he needs from Clear Creek County.

Coors, his father and Maria Steele, an event caterer, planner and wedding consultant, bought the property for $1.65 million from Iran Emeson, who ran a ski resort there until 1984.

Coors knows he's late to the game but still hopes to get Eclipse up and running this season.

"It eventually will cost another $1 million to put in the half-pipe and two or three jumps," Coors said Wednesday.

It isn't so much the numbers of visitors as the possible effect on the environment that bothers some residents in the old gold mining town, which was founded in 1881 and named for the wife of placer miner George Taylor.

Alice became a ghost town until recreation on the glacier and dude ranches brought people back in the 1960s and '70s.

Emeson's ski resort, which operated from the 1930s to 1986 and was variously known as Silver Lake and Silver Mountain, offered little more than a T-bar and some outhouses for its customers.

"We have a number of unanswered questions before we agree to let this go ahead," said Heather Ulrich, who lives with her husband, Marshall, in the area.

They include:

• How will the area get water for snowmaking, and will it affect three small lakes - St. Mary's, Silver and Quivira - locals use for recreation?

• Will the town be affected by noise from snowmaking equipment, ski lifts and air pollution?

• Will the town overflow with traffic, adding to parking problems?

"This town is nine miles up Fall River Road from I-70, and we want to know if the county is planning to do maintenance on the road that's already in bad shape?" Ulrich said.

"We're just beginning to put this together and have to face rezoning issues and other county requirements before we can go forward," said Coors, who sells residential real estate while completing his degree in mechanical engineering at the Colorado School of Mines.

He said water for snowmaking, which his group purchased from the towns of Idaho Springs and Empire, will be trucked to the area - two trucks a day - and held in four 5,000-gallon holding tanks until it is needed.

"We are very concerned that our operation isn't noisy and aren't using air pressure-type blowers that are loud," he said. "This is blown by fans that only put out 65 decibels at 25 feet, and our lifts are electrically powered.

"We won't touch water in the lakes and hope to be good enough stewards to keep noise, air pollution and trash to a minimum," Coors said.

He said they have two acres for parking that should handle all of the customers.

Clear Creek County Commissioner Harry Dale was somewhat taken aback to learn of the plan to truck in water.

"Wow, that's hard to believe," Dale said.

But Dale said nothing has been presented to the county commission. The proposal has to go through the county planning and zoning process, and there will be ample opportunity for public input before a final decision is made.

gerhardtg@RockyMountainNews.com or 303-892-5202
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Snowmaking at a ski area named after a glacier?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found out Sunday that Coors is planning for February 1st to open the lifts. Still seems like a stretch, but I guess we'll see. Although I don't know much more than that right now I can tell you there is a lot of activity in regards to the lifts being worked on and heavy equipment moving dirt, etc. Yes, the lifts are old and need repair, but they apparantly have the resources to get it done and things are definately happening up there. I still owe Brad some pictures, so will try and get those sent in this week.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sweet thanks for the update ian. if you could, just email the pictures to webmaster@coloradoskihistory.com when you get a chance.
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